Sunday, August 9, 2009

Murdering, with no punishment?

Throughout the semester, I have connected myself more to the news, and about political issues. I have discussed some of the issues that I believe are most important, such as the healthcare reform, and the economy. After this last test, and reading about the different amendments and different court cases, I decided that I would discuss an issue that I know many, including myself, feel strongly about.

I am someone who has many conservative beliefs, and one that am very passionate about, is being pro-life. Currently, abortions are legal, with a few restrictions that vary from state to state about abortions under eighteen years old. In Texas, if you are under eighteen, you have to notify a parent that you would be getting an abortion, not get permission, just tell them. I find this a tad bit crazy. If you are under eighteen and got pregnant, it most likely was an accident. I understand many people's views, when saying that if they were to stay pregnant they would end up dropping out of high school, not attending college, etc. I know that many teen girls try to get abortions to prevent that, but I think that they put themselves into the situation, and they need to deal with the mistakes that they may have made. So many girls, go out and sleep around, thinking that there are so many ways to prevent getting pregnant, and if they did, they could just get an abortion and get rid of it. Those girls in my opinion, are being careless. They do not realize that if they were to get pregnant, then at any stage of the pregnancy, they are carrying a human. To get an abortion at any stage of a pregnancy would be killing a person. There are many people who are murders, and are sentenced to the death penalty. But, there are many women in the United States who are killing humans daily, and they never have any consequences of doing so.

I think that it is time that the United States put a ban on abortions. Women need to take responsibility for what they have done if they get pregnant. They can easily arrange for a closed adoption, and will not have to deal with that child after the nine months in the womb, but to kill a child, because you "do not want to ruin your own life," is just being selfish in my opinion. I do understand the right to privacy, but I think this goes beyond that, this is murder, and if other murders are being punished, I do not think it is right for women to get away with killing a human, regardless of if it is in a placenta or not.

10 comments:

CNail said...

Let me ask you, the reader of this comment, a question. You are the parent of a teenage girl that you have discovered is pregnant. Your family does not make a lot of money, so it would be very difficult to care for this child. Your daughter was to be married to a man that could take care of her, but now he is now considering calling off the marriage because he is not the father of the child. Should you tell your daughter to have an abortion to make things easier for her and your family? If you said yes, congratulations, you just killed Jesus!

I agree with the opinion of the author of "Murdering, with no punishment?" that a ban on abortion should return in the United States. "If you are under eighteen and got pregnant, it was most likely an accident" is a true statement, and the current legality of abortion promotes this type of careless behavior by teenagers in the United States by providing them a way out of dealing with the consequences of teenage pregnancy through conveniently killing their children.

I agree with the author's opinion that adoption is a far better option than abortion. It would be hypocritical if Americans were willing to use their tax dollars for the housing of prisoners and the homeless, but would be unwilling to use them for the increase in size that foster homes would see if abortion was banned again.

My opinion on this issue probably would not matter to most women considering an abortion because I am a male who will never have to consider whether or not I'm going to have an abortion. Currently, I suggest we pass laws that require the father of a child whose life is in jeopardy to pay child support if the mother decides not to kill the child, and if the father is a teenager then require his parents to pay the child support until he can afford it. To prevent rape, and any abortions that could happen because of it, rape should be moved up to a higher level felony. Increasing the responsibility of biological fathers for their children would help males to not behave carelessly, and, in turn, lower the number of abortions.

Mike said...

This is an incredibly touchy subject where emotions flair and both sides feel very passionate about their beliefs. I'm not really for or against abortion and don't plan on trying to be the expert but here is what I think.

It's difficult to say that a woman should have every right to do whatever she wants with her body because if there is a baby in her body it is no longer just her body but the baby's as well. If the child was already born and the mother killed him that would be murder. However when does the baby reach the point of "Human Life" ? There are a lot of studies and facts that argue different stages of the pregnancy.

As for adoption there are so many kids living in foster homes and waiting for a "forever family" for someone to love them and care for them. Why bring more unwanted (I know that sounds horrible but it is a unfortunate reality) kids to this world? What if the woman was a victim of rape? Who are we to judge her or to force her to go through that?

If a scientist could, without a doubt, prove to you that in the first trimester there is no human activity and that the fetus is no different than a peanut, sperm inside a man's body, or the egg inside a woman's body? Do you still consider it murder? If that were the case every woman that goes through a monthly cycle would be committing murder.

I feel that sometimes this subject tends to be more an issue of faith and others wanting to impose their faith on the rest of the world. Our ancestors came to America to be free of religious persecution yet everyone in America wants to force their beliefs on others. I'm not saying abortion is wrong or right, but I don't think all teenage girls that experiment with sex are thinking, "who cares if I get pregnant, I'll just go get an abortion." Furthermore, a commentator on your article (I understand this isn't your opinion but it emphasizes what i'm trying to explain) that agrees with your point of view stated that if you allowed your daughter to have an abortion, "congratulations, you just killed Jesus!" What if they don't believe in Jesus or God for that matter? Does that take away their citizenship? It shouldn't!

We should be spending more time and resources on preventing unwanted pregnancies. Recently, President Obama was blasted for having put funding in his stimulus plan for contraceptives, but yet if more people had these available and we spent more time educating our young maybe we would have less unwanted pregnancies.

Becca May said...

In the latest article in my classmate’s blog, “With Liberty and Justice For All”, they discuss the delicate subject of abortion. Although I consider myself one to tend to have liberal views, this is a subject that I consider myself conservative on. With the only exception of rape, I believe that all abortions should be illegal. My classmate brings up the point of abortions almost encouraging promiscuous behavior, and I agree. Actions have consequences (and I don’t want that word to have an entirely negative connation.) Abortion also is contrary to the Constitution stating that all human beings are equal and entitled to the undeniable right of life. C’mon people.

I participate in debate at my high school and we do various activities that promote the use of debate skills, such as logic and reasoning, negating, etc., and an activity that we did once was the whole “There’s 15 people on a sinking boat, you can only put 7 on the lifeboat, who do you save and why?” deal. One of the people that we could have saved was a teenager who was five months pregnant, but if you choose her, her child would have taken up one of the seven places as well. This immediately divided the class. An argument created by affirmative side -- the side that said yes to choosing the pregnant teenager -- was that if we didn’t choose them, the teenager would die, as well as her baby who could have the potential to do the greatest good in the history. Yes, it was an extreme, but I believe that this is the case for any unborn. Abortion strips away any chance of knowing the outcome and that’s remarkably unacceptable.

There are so many alternatives to “getting rid” of a child. Like my classmate said, there’s closed adoption. After nine months, the child is out of the mother’s life, and making someone else’s life happier.

1.21 million abortions were performed in 2005. That’s 1.21 million lives that could have been something wonderful, could have done something great, could be living right now.

Heather said...

I know that abortion is a very delicate subject, but I don't think it's as black and white as this blog makes it seem. I agree with the fact that there are a lot of women being careless with having the option of abortion and I don't think abortion should be used as a way out of taking responsibility for your actions. I completely agree that it's a little ridiculous that in Texas all a girl under 18 has to do is "tell" her parents. There really are better options such as adoption, which is a great alternative for anyone, especially someone under 18.

Having said that, I do disagree with the author about making ALL abortions illegal. I say this because there are circumstances where it should be a choice. What about women who are raped and get pregnant? Are they supposed to carry a child they didn't want in the first place and give it up for adoption in the end? Let's not forget the women who might potentially die from having a child or even the child itself might die in the end. Do these women not get a choice at all?

I see the point being made here, abortion is murder, and it shouldn't be optional for everyone just as way out. I just think there were other points that should have been taken into consideration before coming to the conclusion of banning all abortions.

Abby M said...

Abortion. That single word has sparked an amazing controversy throughout the whole of the United States - although it's not so much the word as the meaning behind it. If one turns to the dictionary for a definition, you will find an abortion is "the termination of a pregnancy after, accompanied by, resulting in, or closely followed by the death of the embryo or fetus." The dictionary has never been one to mince words, and yet you'll find thousands of pro-abortionists trying to soften the meaning of what is, ultimately, murder.

Now that I have your attention: my fellow classmate posted a blog on this rather touchy subject just a few days ago, aptly titled "Murdering, with no punishment?" The author discusses their opinion on the subject, which is quite plain and straightforward - abortion is wrong. In the conclusion, it is even suggested that "it is time that the United States put a ban on abortions," because women should be "[taking] responsibility for what they have done."

I don't think I could more wholeheartedly agree with this. Although, yes, there are always difficult circumstances that pro-abortionists bring up ("What if the woman was raped? What if she or the child could die in the process of giving birth?"), aren't there difficult circumstances like that with any rule? There will always be moments that laws seem unfair or wrong, but without the laws, we have nothing to hold our world in place. If people would just stop beating around the bush and look at the issue of abortion, they'd see it for what it truly is. Abortion means taking a living being - a small fetus that would grow up to be someone just like you or me - and ending it. Just like that. Not even giving it a chance to see who it could be. Just making the decision for it. And I will always see that as being wrong, as being murder, ban or no ban.

They say it's the woman's choice, right? Well, this is mine.

Sn said...

A commentary titled “Murdering, with no punishment ?” by Taylor Gilman brought up a controversial issue of abortion that many feel strongly about. The author shows clear support for a ban on abortions due to moral reasons. The author admits that most abortions are concerned for teen pregnancies and majority choose to get an abortion to prevent dropping out of high school or not attending college. Nevertheless, the author believe it is a selfish decision and morally wrong.

I understand the argument and the author’s pro-life view, however, I disagree with the narrow opinions and reasons.

I have much of a pro-life view as the author but I do not feel abortions are against life. I admit that abortions means taking away the baby’s life but as most of us know, life is more than just to be born and then die. It is the fact of living that makes life so complicated. Most teen pregnancies may have been irresponsible for their actions, however, and that is why they are still called teenagers instead of adults. If they have to keep the baby, it will definitely jeopardize their life and also their baby’s life. I understand the author opinions in saying pregnant teens getting abortions are selfish and should hold responsible for their actions. However, if the government, who provides no additional help for the baby or the mother, forces the teens to have the baby, then it is just as selfish and unreasonable.

I think it is an absurd idea for us, people who did nothing in helping the pregnant teens, to taking away her rights to get abortion, consequently put her life in jeopardy because of our beliefs. If the government or any of us feel that strongly for pro-life, then they should help in taking care of the baby financially. With a reasonable mind, I think that unless the government provide substantial financial helps to the baby, it should hold no right, morally and logically, to force the pregnant teen to keep the baby and taking care of it. A ban on abortion will be like us giving a baby to a teen girl and say “ Here, it is yours and it is not an option. This is your punishment and you are responsible for it for 18 years. Do whatever you need. You are on your own.” Is it just and morally right ? I beg not.

Ultima said...

The issue of the legality of abortion is still very provocative in the United States. However, when debating an issue such as this, the language used must be extremely precise, to avoid any misunderstandings. To begin with, abortion can not possibly be declared illegal, not only can it be induced through pills and drugs, but it can also happen because of complications that are beyond control. While several of the phrases in the article can allude to the type of induced abortion, "To get an abortion", it is still not exact enough language.
The next issue I have with Gilman's article is the use of broad statements to describe women who get abortions. "But, there are many women in the United States who are killing humans daily, and they never have any consequences of doing so." When writing an article of this nature, it benefits the writer to use such statements sparingly, if at all, and with factual evidence. This statement does not give the actual statistics of abortions in the U.S, nor does it give evidence to any studies concerning the consequences women who have abortions suffer.
Finally, I take to offense with the tone of the author. I acknowledge that this is an issue that brings out very intense emotional responses. I feel that the path this argument takes is not based in enough evidence or personal experience. To convince someone in a debate such as this, one should use more than vague wording and horrendous stereotypes.

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shainabv said...

After reading numerous student blogs, I decided that I absolutely had to comment on With Liberty and Justice For All's blog on the subject of "Murdering, with no punishment." While I respect the author's beliefs and opinions, I feel that this is too emotional and sensitive of a subject for one to be so closed-minded.

The author forgot to mention that not all unwelcome pregnancies occur simply because a young girl is irresponsibly sleeping around without protection. Someone can be on birth control and still get pregnant, or be using a condom that ends up ripping... is that irresponsible, too? Accidents can happen when we do everything in our power to prevent them, and I don't feel that a women should be stuck with a child that they're not ready for when they did their best to prevent such a thing from happening. How is that fair?

On the other hand, imagine this. You are a newlywed, who just got pregnant, and you're so excited!! A few weeks in, your doctor detects that something is seriously wrong with your child, and you're devastated. You decide to abort the fetus because you conclude that the child would be better off unborn than being born and living the challenging life that's laid out ahead. Is the sad, unfortunate decision to have an abortion in this case still considered "selfish and careless?"

Even if abortions were made illegal, I guarantee that some rich woman will fly half way across the world to somewhere where it IS legal, or some young girl would attempt to terminate the pregnancy on her own in her bathroom, the old (and dangerous) way. Making abortions illegal would not fix the problem, and is ignoring our right to privacy.

While I don't believe that abortions should be banned, I wouldn't be opposed, and I am in fact in favor, to some stricter circumstances. In my opinion an abortion should only be an "option" within the first trimester and under the right circumstances such as rape, incest, and the ones I listed above. Abortions should never be an option because it is "convenient" or because you truly didn't bother using protection.

At the end of the day, my views on abortion can be summed up in just one simple sentence that President Clinton so wisely said many years ago: "Abortions should be safe, legal, and RARE."

Anonymous said...

Ban abortions?!? Ban BABIES!!! I'm sick of being stuck in traffic as much as the next guy... If you think about it, this place is crowded enough as it is. Honestly though, banning abortion is the worst thing we could do, do you know what kind of people have unprotected sex, don't use contraceptives, etc? STOOPID PEOPLE! Do we really need more of their undeveloped cretins walking among the general public in even more bulk than they're already in? If they really wanted it to be a last resort, they would just charge more. Abort more, not less, the "supposed" morality of this isn't based on religion which so many of it's protesters flock to: "killing Jesus" comment I read earlier... it's the shame they're trying to force people to show by having a child that young, which is SO christian by the way.. better things to do to build up your pride if you ask me... 95% of the population is already borderline "special" in my opinion. If you still don't understand this concept of stupid people breeding out of control? Then you are one of them, don't have kids.